Sam Ruddick: As an editor, what are
some of the things that come across your desk that turn
you off? I hate to ask anyone to make generalizations
about any kind of art, but are there things that you run
into pretty consistently that bother you? Things that
writers do that you would call “mistakes”?
Gregory Napp: Presuming we’re talking
about stories that are fairly polished, I’d say
there are a number of things I usually find disappointing:
Stories that do nothing more than celebrate the author’s
insightfulness, wisdom, cleverness. So-called experimental
stuff, if it doesn’t also have heart. Mere reproductions
of the way things supposedly are. Stories that are about
situations instead of the people in them. Sentimentality.
Rhetoric. Attitude, generally. Basically, most of the
sins of which I myself have been guilty. Pat endings.
These are all big turn-offs, and they often result from
nothing more complicated than the author’s failure
to totally engage the work, to sublimate herself or himself.
In chemistry, the word sublimate means to transform directly
from a solid to a gas—ice becoming steam without
first becoming water, for example. Poof. That’s
more or less what the author should do in the work—be
invisible.
There is also work that demonstrates an
impoverished sense of what’s interesting. For example,
lots of people think that adding hip cultural stuff to
a story will make the story hip, too. Maybe it does, but
who says hip is interesting? Who cares if your character
listens to Lou Reed? That stuff almost never flies. But
occasionally it does. Anything topical is usually a non-starter
as well.
But there are plenty of stories where
the things I have just talked about are mostly absent,
and those stories are always appreciated. They always
get a sympathetic reading. And there are a few that indulge
in one or another of those sins but are forgiven because
they possess some beauty that balances things out.
Oh, and although it’s exactly the
sort of thing I would have done not very long ago, it’s
also a turn-off when someone submits a story whose length
is exactly 971 words. I know it’s my own fault for
picking the number, but still, what are the chances that
the length of a sublimely-executed story will equal exactly
971 words? Not very high. I usually put off reading those.
SR: One of the things that keeps the
site fresh is its diversity. You’ve published work
that’s comic, absurd, sad. Ashish Mehta’s
“Feeling
of Choice,” in November 2007, was a sort of
science fiction piece. Is there any particular qualification
or set of qualifications for inclusion in 971? Something
that thrills you? Besides quality, I mean? Because everyone
says that. Can you tell me anything specific about your
aesthetic? Or is it a mystery to you?
GN: When a piece draws me in, it has passed
the most important test. What thrills me is not once thinking
of the author. When what I’m experiencing is close
to total engagement, I don’t worry whether a story
is of sufficient quality, because it clearly possesses
the most important qualities. When I’m engaged,
that means the author isn’t doing any of those things
I mentioned before. Most of her individual, personal impulses
have been vaporized. The story has been created by her
better self, and that artifact has arrived in my inbox.
The selections, I think, are pretty similar in that regard,
even if they are diverse in terms of content, tone, style,
and most other measurements.
SR: Contemporary writers you like?
Dead ones?
GN: Recently? Fitzgerald, Forster, Kundera,
Rushdie, Cormac McCarthy (The Road).
Previously, and still: Chekhov, Kawabata,
Nabokov, Murakami, Hemingway, the Barthelmes.
SR: Your “about” page
says you don’t believe the very short story is a
distinct form, but in May 2007 you published Townsend
Walker’s “You’ll
Never Imagine.” Strictly speaking, it’s
a play, not a short story. So what are your feelings on
form? Were you making an exception for a particularly
strong piece? Or do you see form as flexible? Story defined
by elements like plot and character, rather than, you
know, whether or not it’s actually a story. Would
you publish a poem that told a story in 971 words or less?
GN: I also say, on the “submit”
page, that it doesn’t matter whether a piece looks
like a story, so long as it gives off the vibrations that
come out of tension and action. I’m big on vibrations.
Things that are alive vibrate. This is not any kind of
mystical thing; it’s just the way I think about
it. What makes a story a story is that it begins with
certain tensions and ends with different ones, or at least,
by the end of a story, the tension that exists in the
beginning has acquired an inflection that could only have
been acquired by having things happen in the particular
way they happen in the story. What’s important is
that something be altered. The relationship between the
ending and the beginning, and between that and the action
which carries us between them—whatever that relationship
is, I conceptualize it as producing a unique set of vibrations.
More tactile people might think of a story having a fingerprint.
Fingerprints are too static for me, so I prefer vibrations.
To relate this to form, I’ll just
draw one comparison, or contrast. People often seem interested
in the difference between flash fiction and prose poetry.
I wish I could say I had always drawn a clear distinction,
but it’s only recently, largely because of my work
on 971, that I’ve been able to. Like a
story’s, a poem’s energy depends largely on
deployment and exploitation of tensions. For a story,
most of the tension is situational, usually. A poem is
less often bound to situation--instead, other tensions
are emphasized (tensions among images, sounds, symbols
and so forth). Obviously, neither poetry nor fiction has
the market cornered on the use of any of this potential
energy, but thinking generally, most people probably agree
with my distinction. The underlying reason for this difference
is that poetry feels no obligation to show change. Stories
are obligated to show at least the possibility of change—and
then what happened? That’s why they need situation.
To answer your question—or one of
them—if
a poem for some reason makes use of situational tension
and includes action that changes the situation somehow
or inflects it, then it is also a story, and I would definitely
publish one. In fact, I believe I have published some.
A piece by J.
A. Tyler that I published in November is a good example.
As for the Townsend Walker piece, the text of a play is
of course a story, and one that is almost nothing but
situation and action. It definitely falls within 971’s
perimeter.
SR: Have you learned anything about
your own writing from editing the magazine?
GN: Definitely. A lot of people have clever
ideas. That’s not enough. You have to have some
relationship with writing that goes beyond using it to
do something you think is cool. That’s the author
in the way, as I was saying earlier. Before I started
working on the magazine I had always wanted to write edgy
stuff, both long and short, and like a lot of people I
had a first impression of flash fiction as something edgy.
Flash fiction sounds sort of cool (which is one of the
reasons I have come to dislike the term, but now it’s
out there, and I admit it’s less clunky than very
short fiction). But flash isn’t naturally any edgier
than anything else. At first I was disappointed to discover
that, because I had hoped a lot of exposure to flash fiction
would help me learn to write edgy, but I don’t even
know what that means. I have learned I’m not an
edgy writer, at least not in the chrome-and-vinyl sense
of the word, and that I’m no longer interested in
being one. I didn’t figure that out only from working
on 971, of course, but I did learn that there
are a lot of people trying to write, and that if I try
to impose something on my writing that is alien to me,
if I try to be edgy, or anything else specific, I’m
always going to look like other people, which means to
me that I may as well not bother.
SR: Two more questions: (1) Does the
majority of the work you see come from writers who are
associated with creative writing programs, and (2) are
there any consistent, perceptible differences between
their work and the writing that comes to you from people
working outside of academia?
GN: I think I get about an equal amount
of work from writers inside and outside of writing programs.
Generally, stories by writers associated with writing
programs have fewer adverbs.
SR: I’m guessing that’s
a good thing.
GN: Almost always. And of course I’m
sort of joking—there’s more to it than that,
but I don’t want to discuss it too much. There’s
this big discussion going on about writing programs. My
take, and I’m not going to bother explaining this,
is that they’re good for everybody, even people
who aren’t in them. As far as 971 MENU
goes, one of the benefits of being available online is
that work arrives from all sorts of writers. I think that’s
terrific.

Gregory Napp can be found in Seoul,
South Korea. 971 MENU can be found online at
http://www.971menu.com.
Sam Ruddick is a Henfield Prize
winning fiction writer. His work has appeared or is forthcoming
in various literary publications, including The Sonora
Review, Gulf Stream, The Saint Ann’s
Review, Phantasmagoria, and Pindeldyboz.com.
He has a PhD in English from the Center for Writers at
the University of Southern Mississippi, where he received
the Joan Johnson Award for Fiction in 2008.